tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post6961893027564056828..comments2023-11-05T09:37:36.840+01:00Comments on A View From Rural Wales: Black and White LiesGlyn Davieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10442114752573417252noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-42922359359394178772007-10-23T23:49:00.000+01:002007-10-23T23:49:00.000+01:00anon - we do not know that a culling programme wou...anon - we do not know that a culling programme would not work. What we do know is that a smallscale culling programme doesn't work - because of the movements it causes within the badger population outside the culling zone.<BR/><BR/>Roman - I do not remember the exact figures from Ireland, but there has been a significant decrease in the incidence of Tb. I will try to find out the exact figures tomorrow if I have the chance.<BR/><BR/>I have absolutely no evidence that badgers are killed and dumped on roads. There may be badgers killed which I do not know about, but why on earth would anyone dump them on the road to pretend they were road kill?<BR/><BR/>We do not know much about whether it is cattle that spread bovine Tb to badgers, or whether its the other way around. It does not make much difference. All we know is that it spreads to each other. It makes no sense to kill about 25,000 cattle every year and test every cattle movement - and do nothing at all about badgers.<BR/><BR/>Eventually we may have a vaccination that is effective. A more effective testing system would also be welcome. We have been told for the last 10 years that a vaccine is about 10 years away.<BR/><BR/>The badger is one of my favorite animals and when I was young they were rarely seen. Today they are very common, and unless we get some control on Bovine Tb, there will eventually be Government policy in Britain which involves a mass cull across the whole country - because Bovine Tb will have spread across the whole country. The scale of this disease is expanding at a frightening rate. Doing nothing is going to lead to a wildlife disaster - and where will you be then.Glyn Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17344589217554138315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-22699333261410460712007-10-23T20:07:00.000+01:002007-10-23T20:07:00.000+01:00culling is not the solution its been proven not to...culling is not the solution its been proven not to be effectiveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-87400113201302539282007-10-23T17:52:00.000+01:002007-10-23T17:52:00.000+01:00anon - my email address is glyndavies8@btinternet....anon - my email address is glyndavies8@btinternet.com<BR/><BR/>Peter - Lets wait and see how Sir John gets on when he tries that line with the select committee.Glyn Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17344589217554138315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-8823797414756044762007-10-23T17:49:00.000+01:002007-10-23T17:49:00.000+01:00Reports from Ireland have said that despite the vi...Reports from Ireland have said that despite the virtual extermination of the badger population, bovine TB is at records levels. The misguided idea that badgers spread this agricultural disease appears just that, misguided. How many more illegally culled badgers must we continue to see ‘dumped’ on our country lanes to appear as road kill? <BR/><BR/>Bovine TB is most usually spread by the cattle themselves. Farmers should take responsibility for their own short-comings before attacking innocent protected animals.<BR/><BR/>Trevor Lawson of the Badger Trust stated "Badgers are a scapegoat for bad farming practices and an inadequate bovine TB testing regime. Our findings make a mockery of the demands for badger culling made in Britain by the National Farmers' Union and other organisations."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-64545247392644899752007-10-23T17:38:00.000+01:002007-10-23T17:38:00.000+01:00I am saying that there does not appear to be a dif...I am saying that there does not appear to be a difference other than Sir John Bourne believing that it is not possible to contain the cull.Peter Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16370260756872929021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-53759089653469948562007-10-23T17:00:00.000+01:002007-10-23T17:00:00.000+01:00GlynI would like to email you but your link does n...Glyn<BR/><BR/>I would like to email you but your link does not work. Do you have an alternative address?<BR/><BR/>PatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-73959652635500566112007-10-23T16:28:00.000+01:002007-10-23T16:28:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Glyn Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17344589217554138315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-76651743308377236322007-10-23T16:14:00.000+01:002007-10-23T16:14:00.000+01:00I do not know why you do not see this as a big di...I do not know why you do not see this as a big difference. Sir David King says that culling could be effective in areas that could be contained, which is what your Assembly spokesman, Mick Bates, current Minister and I have always thought. Sir John Bourne took the views that culling would be so ineffective that it should not be carried out at all. Seems like a fundamental difference to me.Glyn Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17344589217554138315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-3333937996520922142007-10-23T15:59:00.000+01:002007-10-23T15:59:00.000+01:00A close reading of the newspaper report indicates ...A close reading of the newspaper report indicates that there is actually not tha much difference between Sir David King and the ISB report. <BR/><BR/>The ISB report says that culling would have to be so extensive it would be ueconomical and that although TB infection dropped in the immediate area of the cull, it increased on adjoining farms, in effect shifting rather than solving the problem. <BR/><BR/>Sir David King says culling could be effective in areas that are contained, for example, by the sea or motorways.Peter Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16370260756872929021noreply@blogger.com