tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post5298477990304885910..comments2023-11-05T09:37:36.840+01:00Comments on A View From Rural Wales: Under Pressure.Glyn Davieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10442114752573417252noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-80568011664066596832007-12-28T14:18:00.000+01:002007-12-28T14:18:00.000+01:00super jim - I still do not believe that I'm rewrit...super jim - I still do not believe that I'm rewriting anything. Perhaps I should have said that the 'optimum' moment had passed. Of course there would have been serious efforts by the Consevatives who favoured the 'Rainbow' and the Lib Dems to keep the dream alive after the latter's Conference backed it - but the balance of opinion in Plaid Cymru had changed. The optimum moment, which turned out to be the only moment had passed. A majority went with Labour, and the Rainbow disappeared.Glyn Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17344589217554138315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-13623558898045655272007-12-28T11:39:00.000+01:002007-12-28T11:39:00.000+01:00Glyn,Dissapointed that you continue to re-write hi...Glyn,<BR/><BR/>Dissapointed that you continue to re-write history on this one, or perhaps to be more charitable to you perhaps you've just been out of the Bay for too long.<BR/><BR/>Yes the Lib Dems messed up and destroyed the best and inital chance for the rainbow, but be fair to them their members meeting vote meant that the moment hadn't completely "passed" in the eyes of the Tory and Plaid leaders down the Bay. <BR/><BR/>Work was being done on how to implement the All Wales Agreement between the three parties after the Tory agreement and after the Lib conference. This is known down the bay, yet it's been ignored in the Plaid re-writing of history, which you seem to have accepted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-71973875558099897502007-12-27T13:40:00.000+01:002007-12-27T13:40:00.000+01:00anon - not sure what you mean about rewriting hist...anon - not sure what you mean about rewriting history concerning the collapse of the 'Rainbow Coalition'. As far as I know there was a general agreement between leaders of three parties - which needed to be endorsed by two of them. (The Conservatives were content to support the deal without wider member endorsement). Of course, Plaid agreement wasn't certain - but if Ieuan Wyn Jones had recommended it, most people think Plaid members would have gone with it. But the Lib Dems had an endorsement system that required a supportive vote by the Party's Executive Committee first. This could not come to a conclusion - so Mike German pulled out. The majority of his party were so cross with this decision that they called a membership meeting anyway and approved it. But the moment had passed - and Plaid simply did not dare risk a deal with partners so unreliable as the Lib Dems. So red/green was born and the 'Rainbow' was sunk.<BR/><BR/>Now what is rewritten history about that!Glyn Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17344589217554138315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-41566213885944524512007-12-27T12:50:00.000+01:002007-12-27T12:50:00.000+01:00Now you're rewriting rewritten histories with your...Now you're rewriting rewritten histories with your summary of the collapse of the rainbow! Naughty.<BR/><BR/>With every month of Labour and Plaid working together, the chances of a Plaid/ Tory coalition fade ever further. Welsh Tories need to wake up to the idea that they need to change even more to present a realistic alternative to Labour-Plaid pact - and force the Lib Dems to wake up to their responsibilities too. And if all that's too much to ask, then just accept Wales is gonna be run by red-green coalition for ever and a day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-59124428151245137042007-12-20T23:40:00.000+01:002007-12-20T23:40:00.000+01:00NM - I suspect that it was a big issue for Mrs D a...NM - I suspect that it was a big issue for Mrs D as well, even if we didn't really talk about it.<BR/><BR/>anon - you are too kind.Glyn Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17344589217554138315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-62938299239336396402007-12-20T23:02:00.000+01:002007-12-20T23:02:00.000+01:00I watched the programme and you were the same asd ...I watched the programme and you were the same asd usual so either you disguised the alcoholic consumption very well or you are always pissed when you appear on televisionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-29361556652498752102007-12-20T21:51:00.000+01:002007-12-20T21:51:00.000+01:00A milestone. Good for you.A milestone. Good for you.Normal Mouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07374935277497669293noreply@blogger.com