tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post4160995869020676105..comments2023-11-05T09:37:36.840+01:00Comments on A View From Rural Wales: Positive DiscriminationGlyn Davieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10442114752573417252noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-86056911391943678762009-07-22T00:59:26.921+01:002009-07-22T00:59:26.921+01:00... adding to mingrous's comments, a report on...... adding to mingrous's comments, a report on social mobility just published; e.g., see: <br /><br />"Britain's closed shop: damning report on social mobility failings"<br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/jul/21/all-party-report-on-social-mobility<br /><br />Boys and girls brought up on large council house estates are gravely disadvantaged compared to children born to wealthy parents who have 'gone to university' in their youth. <br /><br />Children from poor families living on council estates tend to have low expectations if their parents have low expectations. Lack of financial means puts a lot of teens living on council estates off staying on at school and going to college. <br /><br />If there is family disruption/disharmony it is even harder. Such children don't have parents that can guide them or who have contacts to help mentor them into professional careers. Careers like law or city trading are essentially 'over the horizon' and so never considered as a career.imetienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-48735870164163088962009-07-21T22:01:26.608+01:002009-07-21T22:01:26.608+01:00Roman - The key is a genuine strategy to raise the...Roman - The key is a genuine strategy to raise the profile and opportunity for the under-represented.<br /><br />Welsh Jacobite - No idea. How on earth do you know this?<br /><br />Mingrous - You are right of course, but like everything else, some things are in fashion, and others are not.<br /><br />Penlan - I do accept that if all else fails, an element of discrimination becomes justifyable - but as far as I can see, not much real effort has been made.Glyn Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17344589217554138315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-6587567170920054622009-07-20T21:56:13.739+01:002009-07-20T21:56:13.739+01:00Hey, the Conservative Party can't be too far o...Hey, the Conservative Party can't be too far off the mark given that the party elected a great woman as its leader to take over the reins from Edward Heath. Margaret Thatcher. Many hate her, most still love her and what one can say about Margaret Thatcher, she had what it took to make a great leader. Just a pity that the likes of Arthur Scargill tried to call her bluff and lost in trumps. The Welsh coalminers suffered when they got bounced into supporting AS's strike, and never recovered. Very sad.Colionacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-75266866938760178422009-07-20T14:31:02.021+01:002009-07-20T14:31:02.021+01:00I would not vote for a candidate of any party sele...I would not vote for a candidate of any party selected in that way on principle.If we do not know that the candidate presented is necessarily the best available,then why should we be expected to give our support to a party that shows the electorate such little respect?penlannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-1739100532157613262009-07-20T13:17:02.777+01:002009-07-20T13:17:02.777+01:00One could make the same argument for people born t...One could make the same argument for people born to hard up parents (perhaps with a mum or dad lacking the ability to read and write properly), father in and out of work, and folks essentially homeless (e.g., living in a downstairs living room of a relative until getting a council house). Childen living in such circumstances are disadvantaged from the get-go - how about tapping into this part of the population?mingrousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-18392083255870078482009-07-20T11:14:45.929+01:002009-07-20T11:14:45.929+01:00Didn't the Conservatives in the 1920s (either ...Didn't the Conservatives in the 1920s (either secretly or at least discreetly) introduce positive discrimination for female delegates to the party conference? They wanted to make sure that with female suffrage the party did not lose out.The Welsh Jacobitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13823492943648242852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-3322288608567941502009-07-20T09:27:20.414+01:002009-07-20T09:27:20.414+01:00Positive discrimination is never a good idea, it b...Positive discrimination is never a good idea, it builds resentment and can push candidates into roles to which they are not suited. Positive discrimination is STILL discrimination! Your policy is the best, encourage participation without forcing things against the wishes of local associations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com