tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post2513594946180336490..comments2023-11-05T09:37:36.840+01:00Comments on A View From Rural Wales: Twas Free Prescriptions what done it.Glyn Davieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10442114752573417252noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-54227235838041371032007-11-01T01:26:00.000+01:002007-11-01T01:26:00.000+01:00Well.....difficult to render you speechless Glyn.W...Well.....<BR/><BR/>difficult to render you speechless Glyn.<BR/><BR/>What am I to say?<BR/><BR/>Your vision for the future?<BR/><BR/>Not GB's, that's for sure!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258854366964329334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-71718465457341036262007-10-31T23:51:00.000+01:002007-10-31T23:51:00.000+01:00anon - thanks for making this pointalan - speechle...anon - thanks for making this point<BR/><BR/>alan - speechless <BR/><BR/>left field - thanks for clearing this up for me. I'd incorrectly shared your impression. And the changing of nappies are on my agenda again after a break of 27 years!!Glyn Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17344589217554138315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-8574323746101351992007-10-31T08:09:00.000+01:002007-10-31T08:09:00.000+01:00I'm tempted to ask whether you complained about *t...<I>I'm tempted to ask whether you complained about *that* permanent majority, but that would be mischevious !</I><BR/><BR/>I too am not really sure of the role of the Scottish Grand Committee. I assumed it was just a talking shop, as I never saw health and education policy being changed.<BR/><BR/>But to re-iterate, I have always been against prolonged one party rule. I am a fan of the old addage "Politicians are like nappies. They both need changing regularly and for the <BR/>same reason."Deletedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398275819570930751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-84377586749324996732007-10-30T17:56:00.000+01:002007-10-30T17:56:00.000+01:00What's this rubbish about a permanent Tory majorit...<I>What's this rubbish about a permanent Tory majority in England? Labour has the most seats at present...</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, my mistake. Apologies for being factually incorrect.<BR/><BR/>I had generally believed that Welsh & Scottish MPs had enabled Labour governments to get majorities, and consequently the English vote was biased towards the Tories.<BR/><BR/>In fact the only times since the war when there has been a Labour majority government and Labour has not had a majority in England is 1964 and 1974, when they had slim majorities in parliament. In 1964 the Tories had a majority in England, in 1974 Labour was the biggest party, but without an English majority. So it would be correct to say that an English Grand committee would favour the Tories in a year with a close result.<BR/><BR/>If the 1964 result were to be repeated though, I assume there would be a Labour ministers, but a Tory majority. Wouldn't this just be a recipe for stagnation? At least with a parliament you would have the majority party doing the governing.Deletedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398275819570930751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-63792995750966261592007-10-30T16:36:00.000+01:002007-10-30T16:36:00.000+01:00A parliament for England Wales ...A parliament for England<BR/> Wales<BR/> Scotland<BR/> Cornwall<BR/> N. Ireland<BR/> Isle of Man<BR/><BR/>+ a Federal Assembly in Shrewsbury<BR/><BR/>Simple!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16258854366964329334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-67788891262308662732007-10-30T14:38:00.000+01:002007-10-30T14:38:00.000+01:00What's this rubbish about a permanent Tory majorit...What's this rubbish about a permanent Tory majority in England? Labour has the most seats at present...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-20566205139356882572007-10-30T13:24:00.000+01:002007-10-30T13:24:00.000+01:00left field - I see the Lib Dems are on board for s...left field - I see the Lib Dems are on board for something like an 'English Grand'. There will have to be a lot of talking about this before it can happen. I still don't know what would happen in rerspect of Wales. It could be an 'England and Wales Grand' which sometimes meets as an England only Committee. Or are we going to re a new flowering of the Welsh Grand'.<BR/><BR/>Long memory - I'm afraid that I have to admit a very high regard for Malcolm.<BR/><BR/>Matt - in general, I'm with you on the size of government - which is why I do not support the idea of a seperate English Parliament. Lets just use the current MPs.<BR/>I accept the point you make about the possibility of a permanant majority - but what happened in Wales and Scotland was that the permanent Labour majorities dissappeared when devolved institutions arrived.Glyn Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17344589217554138315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-54205979798063551662007-10-30T03:45:00.000+01:002007-10-30T03:45:00.000+01:00-Just like the other bodies it needs to be elected...-Just like the other bodies it needs to be elected by PR, or we would have an almost permanent Tory ruled English Parliament, as would happen with a grand committee. <BR/><BR/>The obvious point to reply with is that was that not precisely the position with the Scottish Grand Committee - for however many decades it has been dominated by a permanent Labour majority? The tension with the whole HoC having to approve everything kept things in balance.<BR/><BR/>I'm open to correction, however, if wrong - as I do not know the exact details of the Scottish Grand Committee over the whole period.<BR/><BR/>I'm tempted to ask whether you complained about *that* permanent majority, but that would be mischevious !<BR/><BR/>I do not really approve of such a proliferation of Parliaments - being basically a small government man. If we have regional assemblies as well then that is three tiers of Parliaments (including the moveable European feast). The whole needs a savage application of Occam's Razor somewhere.<BR/><BR/>Therefore I would support giving a further role to our existing MPs.<BR/><BR/>It is tempting to suggest the strategy used by various US States, and have non-Westminster Parliaments (including the English Pt or GC) meet only for 6-8 weeks once a year.<BR/><BR/>The biggest problem is that there is just too much of it all. I shall invent a new verse for "Partridge in a Pear Tree":<BR/><BR/>32567 Politicians Politicking<BR/><BR/>If they don't exist they don't have to create work for themselves to justify their existence by needing to interfere with us, and that makes life much easier for everyone.<BR/><BR/>My take - only slightly tongue in cheek.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-57920911357489348572007-10-29T21:50:00.000+01:002007-10-29T21:50:00.000+01:00my big question is Malcolm Rifkind.he who was the ...my big question is Malcolm Rifkind.he who was the architect of the poll tax How can he ever be taken seriously againAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-4411498787963320482007-10-29T19:06:00.000+01:002007-10-29T19:06:00.000+01:00Since there hasn't even been a campaign for an Eng...Since there hasn't even been a campaign for an English parliament we don't really know.<BR/><BR/>I think the Tories just want a grand committee to give them a permanent government of England. <BR/><BR/>We've alread had a Tory government of the UK with a majority of 144 and 42% of the vote, and a Labour government with 36% of the vote. I think England deserves some democracy, not a grand committee dominated by southern Tories.Deletedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398275819570930751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-47184805115300031692007-10-29T18:18:00.000+01:002007-10-29T18:18:00.000+01:00left field - I prefer to work in the world of real...left field - I prefer to work in the world of realism. I do not believe there is a cat-in-hell's chance of an English Parliament winning a referendum - and it is much more likely that an English Grand Committee would be accepted.Glyn Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17344589217554138315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34112832.post-33283289938222107252007-10-29T13:26:00.000+01:002007-10-29T13:26:00.000+01:00If Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland can have t...If Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland can have their own parliaments, then surely England is entitled to one ?<BR/><BR/>Just like the other bodies it needs to be elected by PR, or we would have an almost permanent Tory ruled English Parliament, as would happen with a grand committee. One party rule by ANY party for an extended time isn't healthy. If we had first past the post for Scotland and Wales it would be the same problem but with Labour rule.<BR/><BR/>Any English parliament, of course, needs to be approved by a referendum. I personally thought regional assemblies were better. Newcastle and Surrey don't have an awful lot in common. If I were still in England I would prefer an assembly in Manchester, rather than a parliament in London. But the government messed that up by offering something akin to a super county council.Deletedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398275819570930751noreply@blogger.com